Jamie Foy's "Intervals" Interview
11/15/2024
In every way, Jamie’s one of the busiest pros in the business. Luckily we got him on the line to dish on the insane lengths he went through to get game-changing, cover-worthy moves and the importance of putting your stamp on the streets. Check this extra-packed piece from our December ‘24 mag.
Foy handles closing duties with an unprecedented performance in his fourth part of the year. You can't miss this
You’re one of the only skaters who, if I’m like, Hey, you got time for a call? You’ll say something like, “How about Thursday at 8AM?”
Yeah, depends on where I’m at. If I hit you with an 8AM for your time, I’m probably on the East Coast. I’ll still be sleeping at 8AM on the West Coast.
You sent me your color-coded calendar too. It looked like Tetris.
It’s pretty stacked up, for sure. But it makes it easy to know what’s happening for me.
Is this something new, or have you always been this organized?
It’s something kind of new. I’ve always been a little organized, but being a skater, there’s definitely a lot of chaos that goes along with everything. Things are partially organized, but they could change up at any moment. So I just want to have an outline, at least. Having a manager that keeps the calendar organized, that helped me out so much with being able to organize my time, or else I’ll double-book myself on accident or some shit. And I don’t wanna do that.
A former King of the Groms mini-ramp champ, Jamie can still toss up a mean front heel when the spot is hot
Are they hitting you up every day telling you, “Mr. Foy, you’ve got this at 11 and a crooked grind at 3”?
Nah. It’s not that in-depth, but I’ll just be checking it out. I kind of know what I’m getting into, because I set it up in the sense of what I want to do. Then I’ll just go with the flow. Recently, it’s all been chill, not running around too much with contests, street skating and everything. It’s just been out filming a lot for these videos, a lot of trips like that. It’s been a lot of fun, just rounding up these clips for the New Balance video right now.
With these videos, they’re all big, but that’s the big, big?
It’s just kind of the last part for the year. It’s funny, because all these parts, like the Deathwish part that was at the beginning of this year, and then the Dickies part that just came out, and now this New Balance part is coming out at the end of the year, they were all supposed to be coming out different years. And then things like the Dickies video got pushed back a few times. Then that kind of made it happen where this Deathwish video was already planning on coming out at the beginning of this year, but the New Balance video was supposed to come out maybe last year. It was never a for-sure date, so it just happened where all these things piled up. But it’s been fun finishing off these New Balance trips. Getting to hang out with Tiago and Westgate, it’s just such a good group.
Backing up fellow SOTYs David Gonzalez and Grant Taylor through the curves of this LA mangler with a front feeble
So what you’re saying is, you wouldn’t have planned to have three massive video parts in a single year?
Not really. It was hard to do all that at once. So thankfully, it’s been some footage built up over the last year, two years, just working on other parts. You just got to go with the flow and see what happens.
So when you have this stack of footage, are you able to go like, Nah, that’s over here; that’s over here; that’s over here? Or is it more up to the video and marketing guys? Can you mix and match? Are you looking at a giant bank of Jamie Foy footage and you can put it wherever you want, or is that on them?
It’s a little different, just because everyone isn’t filming the same exact way. Thankfully, the Deathwish video and the Dickies video were pretty much filmed with similar cameras. Everyone’s kind of using the HPX, and then some Sony footage with Bobby. So that was a little bit of a mix-and-match where we could use whatever. But then when it came to New Balance, everything I’ve been filming with the New Balance guys is strictly for New Balance, just because it’s filmed with certain cameras with certain settings where they want it to look more cinematic. Something like that, I’m not a camera guy.
Do you give a shit if they said they were doing a VX part for New Balance? Would you be like, Cool!? Do you have a preference?
I would love to have a VX part! I would say I have a little bit of a preference in the sense that I like classic videos, classic fisheye, long lens, zooming—anything from VX to the HPX with the Xtreme, I would say is my favorite. But we’ve been filming a lot of different stuff for this New Balance video. It kind of reminds me more of the stuff I used to do with Ty when he was doing it. It’s a little more cinematic. But it’s really cool. It’s different. I just let the guys do their thing and I’m trying to communicate with them while I’m skating. Before I skate, I’m like, Hey, I’m gonna be going pretty fast. Just so that way they can knock it out of the park. I know it’s hard when they’re experimenting with different angles with gimbals and stuff. They’re gettin’ a little high-tech with the New Balance video. But it’s sick. That’s what’s gonna give it its own look. Kyle Camarillo, the head guy, gives it his touch. So it’s gonna be super sick. I’m excited to be a part of it, being in it with the boys. But when it comes to filming, my favorite style is just the classic fisheye follow lens and zooming long-lens style. You can never beat the classics.
From the courthouse to the casino, this 180 to switch crooks is like money in the bank
Yeah, give me those Baker videos.
Exactly, classic.
So spoiler alert, I’m looking at all your photos. I’m seeing your big tricks right now. So I gotta ask you some questions about these crazy-ass tricks. First of all, are you like Jaws, where instead of sending him three-story drops, are people around the world sending you the most fucked-up handrails?
They definitely have. I’ve definitely gotten mentioned in a bunch of crazy spots, a bunch of crazy big rails where it’s not even doable. Shit, someone might be able to do them, because anything’s possible. But for me, I see it and I’m like, Yeah, it’s not my cup of tea. But it’s funny, because with kids, it’s just them being all hyped, seeing a local spot that’s some big rail, and they’re just like, Yo, come hit this shit. It’s perfect! I’m just like, Oh, man, that thing looks terrible. But hey, appreciate it. I’m more strategic, calculated. I’m not going to hit some random, crazy hometown spot just because.
Back lip in bear country
How’d you find this down-across-and-up rail?
See that one was kind of on my own reconnaissance. Me and Tim Savage just kind of happened to come across that on Instagram with a Soap shoer. I swear it’s crazy. Social media makes the world so small nowadays. The rail randomly popped up. Someone maybe posted in a story or something. Maybe it was suggested, but it was a Soap shoer that went down, flat, up the rail and then cartwheeled off the end. So I saw that and I’m just like, What the hell, this rail looks insane. So then I just started going on Instagram, sharing it to a couple of homies, trying to see how many could help me find the spot. So it was like me and Tim going back and forth. And it just happened where I got into a hole, where I found one rollerblader that hit it and was commenting on the post. From that, I found their Instagram. Then they had some Instagram that was a spot Instagram that was for the area. And then boom, on that Instagram was that handrail with a bunch of photos with the pin and a caption. I was just like, No way. This is it. Found it! So it’s just like an Instagram hole, just digging and digging and digging and finding a little nugget of gold. I was super hyped, because then it just all worked out where I was in France for a Street League, and then I was about to go to Dubai for an Olympic contest and I had a week to kill. So then I flew to Germany, rented a car, just solo. Drove out there and checked out a bunch of spots that were in the area, and mainly checked out that spot to make sure it was good and it was. Then we scheduled a trip for a month and a half, two months later. Thankfully, we went out and got it done. It was super sick to have it all come together at the end of it all. Me, Tim and everyone, we were super hyped on the process. That’s what makes getting that clip all that much better.
Take an extended look at Jamie's gift from the Soap gods. Backside 50-50
Yeah. It’s like CSI: Handrails going on.
Yeah, it’s funny. Saw it on Instagram, I was just like, Man, who makes this shit? It’s a perfect down-flat-up rail where you don’t have to do anything to it. It’s over a little ravine-type thing in Germany, so it was super beautiful—a lot of greenery and such a cool area.
So who has the secret spots? I wouldn’t even think of a Soaper. I thought they were dead.
If you’re thinking big handrails, a lot of times you can find that with random Rollerblade posts of people. Rollerbladers love giant handrails, also BMXers love giant handrails, big kink rails, or big gaps and stuff like that. Sometimes you gotta stretch outside of skateboarding and try to find something that maybe someone else has hit on like a bike or Rollerblades. There’s even really gnarly scooter riders out there that hit giant handrails. You can find a spot through anybody, and just be like, Hey, man, this thing looks dope. What’s up with it?
Are they usually down to give it up? Or do they play hard to get?
Every time, so far, everyone’s been pretty cool. Just be nice about it. If you’re going out there, and if they’re local, just at least let them know. Like, Hey, I’m gonna go check this thing out, if you’re around or whatever. You just want to be respectful of everything. Everything so far has been super chill. Sometimes skaters are a little more secretive with spots, but it makes sense because you’re giving it to another skater. A BMXer giving a skater the spot, they don’t got to worry about nothing.
When they saved the Brooklyn Banks they had no idea that Jamie Foy would shut it down again so quickly—fakie flip back lip Photo: Colen
So did the Soaper come kick it when you did the rail?
I didn’t hit them up. Just because that was probably a year, maybe a year and a half, before I got there. We did link up with some local homies in Germany that were showing us around. There were definitely a bunch of cool people out there that showed us around a lot of sick spots though.
Was that probably the most elaborate mission for a single spot? Have you gone even crazier than that?
Having to go there by myself, stay in Germany for two nights by myself, just go check out a bunch of spots and check out that spot, that was one of the most elaborate ones. Getting all those clips and showing all the boys around made it that much sicker, just because I was there a little bit before them and got some eyes on it. So it was super cool.
I got a couple more spot questions from these fucked-up photos. This gap to fakie back lip, how sketchy was this?
Pretty scary. That was a super cool spot. That’s a Tim Savage spot. It’s up in the Boston area. Anything in that area, he’s got it on lock. He took us there. I think Westgate front lipped it before, and he had no Bondo. I Bondoed it a little bit. There was a little crack where it goes from asphalt to concrete. Then I just had to get used to going fakie at it. I took the worst route I probably could doing that. I would fakie ollie and bail the whole thing to flat. And it was kind of at a weird time where I was skating a good amount of contests, so I wasn’t really in my comfort zone with pushing my limits with tricks that I do, rough ground and just being confident in myself. That was one of the things that got me back into getting clips as much as I can, just getting the confidence. It was like, fakie ollie, bail the whole thing, gap to flat. I probably did that five to seven times, killed my feet. I was like, Oh, man, this is way worse than just trying the trick. So after doing that a few times, I was like, Alright, my feet can’t take it anymore. I gotta start trying it. And then, thankfully, that worked in like four or five tries. Once I started actually committing, slid a few, stuck one or two, then I ended up landing it. I got a hot pocket when I landed it. I kind of knew right when I landed and I got a hot pocket, I was like, Alright, stand up. This is it. It’s underneath me. I was super hyped that one worked out because it was my biggest fakie back lip, and one of the coolest ones I’ve done. I always wanted to do one on a gap to rail. That’s just one of those crazy-setup rails where it’s like, That’s the one to do it on if there is one.
Always stepping it up, fakie back lip past the kink
It’s fucked. Everybody knows if you ride the miniramp too long, it fucks up your ability to ollie. So when you’re doing the contests, you mentioned it’s hard to get back in the street. Does skating the contest fuck you up for the streets? Does it kind of spoil you a little bit? Is your focus a little different?
It’s like a double-edged sword. It’s nice because of competition, I do have a set amount of tricks where I’m very comfortable with them and can do them in a few tries. I think that helps me take certain tricks to big obstacles in the streets, because I would do them in runs a lot and have to be pretty consistent with them. But like I said, it’s a double-edged sword because then I’m only doing a certain amount of tricks. I’m not learning a bunch of new tricks during competitions and I’m not pushing my limits, because I’m sticking to the tricks I can land in a certain amount of tries. So that’s when it kind of hinders my ability. When I’m like, Alright, I need to do what I do normally, but on something way bigger, that’s when it just gets a little scarier. And you’re kind of dealing with going from perfect skatepark ground, where it’s made to skate, and then you go to the streets. You got to adapt and be like, Yeah, this shit isn’t built to skate, but we’re doing this right now, and we can do this. It’s just more of a head game. There’s pros and cons to it all, but that’s why it’s cool. That’s why I like playing both sides of it. I like contests, hanging out with homies, skating those things and getting to travel the world doing that stuff. But then there’s nothing better than just going in the streets and skating with the homies, being able to do that around the world. That’s gonna top it all. That’s the best of the best.
It’s fucked. Everybody knows if you ride the miniramp too long, it fucks up your ability to ollie. So when you’re doing the contests, you mentioned it’s hard to get back in the street. Does skating the contest fuck you up for the streets? Does it kind of spoil you a little bit? Is your focus a little different?
It’s like a double-edged sword. It’s nice because of competition, I do have a set amount of tricks where I’m very comfortable with them and can do them in a few tries. I think that helps me take certain tricks to big obstacles in the streets, because I would do them in runs a lot and have to be pretty consistent with them. But like I said, it’s a double-edged sword because then I’m only doing a certain amount of tricks. I’m not learning a bunch of new tricks during competitions and I’m not pushing my limits, because I’m sticking to the tricks I can land in a certain amount of tries. So that’s when it kind of hinders my ability. When I’m like, Alright, I need to do what I do normally, but on something way bigger, that’s when it just gets a little scarier. And you’re kind of dealing with going from perfect skatepark ground, where it’s made to skate, and then you go to the streets. You got to adapt and be like, Yeah, this shit isn’t built to skate, but we’re doing this right now, and we can do this. It’s just more of a head game. There’s pros and cons to it all, but that’s why it’s cool. That’s why I like playing both sides of it. I like contests, hanging out with homies, skating those things and getting to travel the world doing that stuff. But then there’s nothing better than just going in the streets and skating with the homies, being able to do that around the world. That’s gonna top it all. That’s the best of the best.
Far Rockaway is still the final frontier for ungodly handrail moves—frontside half-Cab to backside 5-0 180 out
Bust or Bail is the original contest in the streets, and we’ve taken it to some real terrain. What do you think about when they recreate a street spot, but they kind of berrics it out? It’s a little bit smaller; it’s a little bit easier; everything’s a little bit smoother. What do you think about those kinds of events?
They’re cool, just because, you get to go there and be like, Oh, man, this is like the skatepark version of the street spot. But then it doesn’t translate the same. Just because a person did it in the contest on some perfect spot doesn’t mean they can go do it in the streets at all. It’s a whole different level. It’s a whole different playing field. I like Bust or Bail, because growing up, that was the one where it’s like, You guys went to real street spots. You didn’t recreate it; you went to the spot. It’s like, Here it is. This is what we got. Send your best stuff. That’s why those are always the gnarliest ones, and that’s why it’s always been so sick. I remember the triple-set one. I went there with my homies when you did the Bust or Bail in San Diego. I tried to ollie it. I think I clipped the last two or three stairs, even with the roll-in. It was insane. Then I sat my ass to the side and watched everyone go crazy on it. Joslin landing crazy tricks on it, clippin’ the set, Tommy Sandoval doing the frontside flip, so many crazy things happening. That stuff is where you can see real street skaters shine.
Bust or Bail is the original contest in the streets, and we’ve taken it to some real terrain. What do you think about when they recreate a street spot, but they kind of berrics it out? It’s a little bit smaller; it’s a little bit easier; everything’s a little bit smoother. What do you think about those kinds of events?
They’re cool, just because, you get to go there and be like, Oh, man, this is like the skatepark version of the street spot. But then it doesn’t translate the same. Just because a person did it in the contest on some perfect spot doesn’t mean they can go do it in the streets at all. It’s a whole different level. It’s a whole different playing field. I like Bust or Bail, because growing up, that was the one where it’s like, You guys went to real street spots. You didn’t recreate it; you went to the spot. It’s like, Here it is. This is what we got. Send your best stuff. That’s why those are always the gnarliest ones, and that’s why it’s always been so sick. I remember the triple-set one. I went there with my homies when you did the Bust or Bail in San Diego. I tried to ollie it. I think I clipped the last two or three stairs, even with the roll-in. It was insane. Then I sat my ass to the side and watched everyone go crazy on it. Joslin landing crazy tricks on it, clippin’ the set, Tommy Sandoval doing the frontside flip, so many crazy things happening. That stuff is where you can see real street skaters shine.
Backside 180 nosegrind, real street
Yeah, it’s a different thing. What about the point where you really knew that that triple set was no joke? When Shane O’Neill tried that switch flip.
Yeah, that was so gnarly.
It hurts you to see a guy like that eat shit that hard.
That’s the thing; he ate it. And that’s what’s cool. That was one of the first times I’d ever seen or met Shane. I remember seeing him try that. I remember walking out of the parking lot at Bust or Bail and he was with Scuba Steve. I’m like, Damn, bro, you good? Like, That was gnarly. He’s just like, Yeah, I’m fine. I’ll be chill. He’s one of those guys that can go win a contest, but also realizes the streets got hands, man. Shit will get you sometimes. But then you live to fight another day.
To the ends of the Earth for this shit! Heelflip in another hemisphere
I heard Yuto talk about this a long time ago, but do you have to be careful with your contest tricks? Do you ever have to hold back at the contest because you don’t want somebody to see what you got that you could probably do at a real street spot.
Sometimes. Thankfully, the stuff that I’m filming for parts, especially like a technical trick that would win a best-trick, it’s really hard for me to land that in 20 minutes. I’ll be battling tricks, like those cool or hard or sick-looking tech tricks. Those will take me a while in the streets or in the skatepark. So that one’s kind of hard, because I just stick to what I do best, play the cards I have and see where they lie at the end. There was one time when I was at a contest and it was a fakie flip fakie 5-0. I did that in best-trick for X Games and I still haven’t done it in the streets. I’ve been looking for the right rail. I probably should have saved it, but all good. It got me the gold and won me some money. You will do some crazy trick you’ve never done before in the contest. And then you’re like, Man, now I gotta take it to the streets because that will validate it. So far, it’s only been done on a skatepark. So that’s the stuff I’m trying to do. Those Skatepark of Tampa tricks, I’m still looking for rails to do those on.
I heard Yuto talk about this a long time ago, but do you have to be careful with your contest tricks? Do you ever have to hold back at the contest because you don’t want somebody to see what you got that you could probably do at a real street spot.
Sometimes. Thankfully, the stuff that I’m filming for parts, especially like a technical trick that would win a best-trick, it’s really hard for me to land that in 20 minutes. I’ll be battling tricks, like those cool or hard or sick-looking tech tricks. Those will take me a while in the streets or in the skatepark. So that one’s kind of hard, because I just stick to what I do best, play the cards I have and see where they lie at the end. There was one time when I was at a contest and it was a fakie flip fakie 5-0. I did that in best-trick for X Games and I still haven’t done it in the streets. I’ve been looking for the right rail. I probably should have saved it, but all good. It got me the gold and won me some money. You will do some crazy trick you’ve never done before in the contest. And then you’re like, Man, now I gotta take it to the streets because that will validate it. So far, it’s only been done on a skatepark. So that’s the stuff I’m trying to do. Those Skatepark of Tampa tricks, I’m still looking for rails to do those on.
Manifested for a My War in the January '25 mag. Fakie flip 5-0
So you got a front crooks to front blunt in the new part?
Not yet, man. Nothing like that. I was super hyped that one worked out. I’ve never even done that on a flatbar. I’m looking for the right street spot. If the opportunity presents itself, we can do that or the front blunt maneuver.
What about this front blunt in Austin?
That was a crazy trip. I’ve never even been to the spot before. That was one of the things I was a little worried about. Usually, I’m one of those guys where I like to go get eyes on things, especially bigger things, just to make sure what I wanted to do is doable. Thankfully, my homie Zion Wright went there with you guys a while ago. After he skated it, he hit me up like, Yo, this kinked rail is really good. You should come out here and check it out. I was looking at the heat index and it said 107 the day I got there. Then the day after that, which was our last day, was 111. I was like, Alright, I need to do it the day I fly in because if I don’t, then I’m just gonna be dying in the heat the next day. We went over there around 5 or 6 the day I landed. It was a little over 100 but it is all in the shade. I started 50-50ing it, just hoping I can get into this front blunt. Hopped in a few, jumped over. I was like, Alright, I can just touch it and jump over all day. I’m not gonna know if I can make to the bottom until I lean back to the side that I popped from. So that was the scariest part. So I just waxed the hell out of the rail. Then pretty much was just like, Alright, let’s go a little faster, get in and hold on. I did that. One try was a little sketchy in the middle, around the kink, just because I was holding on for dear life, but made it to the end, slipped out. Third time, I made it to the end, thankfully. It might’ve taken 20-25 minutes. So that one worked out as great as it could have. All of us were so hyped. It was sick ‘cause the next day, it was 111 and we went and hit the river. Perfect day to hit the Austin River.
So you got a front crooks to front blunt in the new part?
Not yet, man. Nothing like that. I was super hyped that one worked out. I’ve never even done that on a flatbar. I’m looking for the right street spot. If the opportunity presents itself, we can do that or the front blunt maneuver.
What about this front blunt in Austin?
That was a crazy trip. I’ve never even been to the spot before. That was one of the things I was a little worried about. Usually, I’m one of those guys where I like to go get eyes on things, especially bigger things, just to make sure what I wanted to do is doable. Thankfully, my homie Zion Wright went there with you guys a while ago. After he skated it, he hit me up like, Yo, this kinked rail is really good. You should come out here and check it out. I was looking at the heat index and it said 107 the day I got there. Then the day after that, which was our last day, was 111. I was like, Alright, I need to do it the day I fly in because if I don’t, then I’m just gonna be dying in the heat the next day. We went over there around 5 or 6 the day I landed. It was a little over 100 but it is all in the shade. I started 50-50ing it, just hoping I can get into this front blunt. Hopped in a few, jumped over. I was like, Alright, I can just touch it and jump over all day. I’m not gonna know if I can make to the bottom until I lean back to the side that I popped from. So that was the scariest part. So I just waxed the hell out of the rail. Then pretty much was just like, Alright, let’s go a little faster, get in and hold on. I did that. One try was a little sketchy in the middle, around the kink, just because I was holding on for dear life, but made it to the end, slipped out. Third time, I made it to the end, thankfully. It might’ve taken 20-25 minutes. So that one worked out as great as it could have. All of us were so hyped. It was sick ‘cause the next day, it was 111 and we went and hit the river. Perfect day to hit the Austin River.
A study in absolute balance, scientists could calibrate their instruments to this flawless front blunt Photo: Makar
From the Cold Call, what was the rail in Spain that gave Tiago goosebumps?
The rail that he’s talking about is actually a really big rainbow rail. It’s insane. It’s something that you’d see in EA Skate, the game.
Okay, we have that photo, but we’re saving it for the next mag. Looks insane!
It’s just this crazy rail. I always wanted to go check it out. It’s something where it’s 45 minutes south of Barcelona. That was actually the first time that I’ve ever been on a trip with Tiago too. So it kind of just happened where one of the first spots he got to see me skate was this really big, long rainbow rail. And I got my trick on it. I was super hyped. So that was what he was talking about. I remember when he dapped me up. He hugged me super hard. That was such a cool thing. It was the same way for me, because before that, I got to watch him skate in Barcelona. I got to skate some ledges that were literally something I would put my arms up and jump to sit on, where my feet are dangling. He was skating it nollie and skating it switch, going super fast. I love the way he skates. It’s the way that I wish I could skate, just because it’s so powerful. That was one of the things that really hyped me up, too. I was there at the rail and I’m just like, Tiago’s here; Westgate’s here; the boys are here. We’re filming this video now fully together on a trip. I want to do this for them. I want to land this, not just try it. I wanted to get it for them, for all of us. That was a good time.
Yeah, it’s crazy to have such different, but such top-of-the-food-chain skaters share a video. You, Westgate and Tiago are all some of the best at what you do—rails, giant ollies and giant ledges. I’m almost surprised you guys could find spots you could all skate together.
Sometimes it works out perfectly on those trips where I’ll have a spot and if I tried a trick, it might take me a while, or it might be a little gnarly or something, and then the next day I’m dust, so it’s Tiago’s turn or Westgate’s turn. It gives us all a nice little break. But then there’s also times that we all get to skate together, because we all love skating ledges. We all love plaza-style hanging out. That’s the Tiago way of life right there, just at the plaza skating all day, chilling with the homies and getting clips while you’re doing it too. So it’s super cool to watch. It’s a fire that we all help each other ignite. Like you said, it’s three different types of skating but it’s also three dudes that are all kind of similar. We’re all damn-near the same height, too! It’s funny, the video’s called Intervals, but we’re all damn-near 5’6”. Once I got in the van with them, I was like, Man, this is going to be such a fun time. I was so excited. I couldn’t wait to get in the van and really start getting on the trips with me, Tiago, Westgate and everyone. It’s been a lot of fun.
From the Cold Call, what was the rail in Spain that gave Tiago goosebumps?
The rail that he’s talking about is actually a really big rainbow rail. It’s insane. It’s something that you’d see in EA Skate, the game.
Okay, we have that photo, but we’re saving it for the next mag. Looks insane!
It’s just this crazy rail. I always wanted to go check it out. It’s something where it’s 45 minutes south of Barcelona. That was actually the first time that I’ve ever been on a trip with Tiago too. So it kind of just happened where one of the first spots he got to see me skate was this really big, long rainbow rail. And I got my trick on it. I was super hyped. So that was what he was talking about. I remember when he dapped me up. He hugged me super hard. That was such a cool thing. It was the same way for me, because before that, I got to watch him skate in Barcelona. I got to skate some ledges that were literally something I would put my arms up and jump to sit on, where my feet are dangling. He was skating it nollie and skating it switch, going super fast. I love the way he skates. It’s the way that I wish I could skate, just because it’s so powerful. That was one of the things that really hyped me up, too. I was there at the rail and I’m just like, Tiago’s here; Westgate’s here; the boys are here. We’re filming this video now fully together on a trip. I want to do this for them. I want to land this, not just try it. I wanted to get it for them, for all of us. That was a good time.
Yeah, it’s crazy to have such different, but such top-of-the-food-chain skaters share a video. You, Westgate and Tiago are all some of the best at what you do—rails, giant ollies and giant ledges. I’m almost surprised you guys could find spots you could all skate together.
Sometimes it works out perfectly on those trips where I’ll have a spot and if I tried a trick, it might take me a while, or it might be a little gnarly or something, and then the next day I’m dust, so it’s Tiago’s turn or Westgate’s turn. It gives us all a nice little break. But then there’s also times that we all get to skate together, because we all love skating ledges. We all love plaza-style hanging out. That’s the Tiago way of life right there, just at the plaza skating all day, chilling with the homies and getting clips while you’re doing it too. So it’s super cool to watch. It’s a fire that we all help each other ignite. Like you said, it’s three different types of skating but it’s also three dudes that are all kind of similar. We’re all damn-near the same height, too! It’s funny, the video’s called Intervals, but we’re all damn-near 5’6”. Once I got in the van with them, I was like, Man, this is going to be such a fun time. I was so excited. I couldn’t wait to get in the van and really start getting on the trips with me, Tiago, Westgate and everyone. It’s been a lot of fun.
Kickflip 50 the Cole Wilson rail
In the Cold Call Andrew Reynolds said you have a Chad Muska quality. What’d you think about when you heard that?
I was tripping, honestly. It’s pretty crazy hearing one of my idols talk about me like that, and referring to another person that was definitely someone I idolized growing up. It’s definitely a surreal thing. Having Tiago talk about watching me skate and giving him goosebumps, when I watched that, it really hyped me up and almost made me tear up, because they’re guys that I respect so much. It’s like if I’m hyping them up and they’re saying these things about me, then I’m just like, Alright, I just gotta keep doing what I’m doing, having fun when I’m doing it. Things have been going great. So watching that stuff, it was just a surreal feeling. You don’t hear that. You know, I don’t talk to those people about that stuff. It’s kind of weird watching it, but it definitely made me super hyped and super happy.
In the Cold Call Andrew Reynolds said you have a Chad Muska quality. What’d you think about when you heard that?
I was tripping, honestly. It’s pretty crazy hearing one of my idols talk about me like that, and referring to another person that was definitely someone I idolized growing up. It’s definitely a surreal thing. Having Tiago talk about watching me skate and giving him goosebumps, when I watched that, it really hyped me up and almost made me tear up, because they’re guys that I respect so much. It’s like if I’m hyping them up and they’re saying these things about me, then I’m just like, Alright, I just gotta keep doing what I’m doing, having fun when I’m doing it. Things have been going great. So watching that stuff, it was just a surreal feeling. You don’t hear that. You know, I don’t talk to those people about that stuff. It’s kind of weird watching it, but it definitely made me super hyped and super happy.
I know you’re super into fishing and boats and other Florida shit. Any close calls on the water?
I actually hooked my grandpa in the eyelid, once. That wasn’t off a boat. That was while we were bass fishin’ off the bank in this neighborhood. I was probably about seven years old, going to cast, go over the back of my head, I go forward and it doesn’t go anywhere. I start pulling on it, and I just hear, Ahhhh! I turn around, and my grandpa has a hook through his eyebrow. I just started crying. I start tripping. He’s screaming at me. It was a crazy situation. Just like skating, you always find yourself in some crazy antics.
Sorry, Grandpa. Who are the top three heaviest handrail dudes of all time?
Nyjah is definitely on that list. I would say he’s number one just because he’s doing tricks that someone that’s really good at skating would do on a ten-to-12 rail, and he’s doing it on 17, 18-plus. So Nyjah, I would say, is definitely in the top tier and almost a class of his own. From there, it’s hard to say, especially with the recent guys. There’s Dane Burman, in the sense of gnarly, balls to the wall, doesn’t give a shit about what it looks like or anything, if he wants to do it, he’ll do it. Then probably the originators of it all—Jamie Thomas or Muska. I hate questions like these. I just start thinking way too in-depth about it. I always miss someone and I mess up. But yeah, Nyjah is definitely in a class of his own. So you could throw him up a little past number one and then the three heads I just mentioned in no specific order.
It's not cool to put yourself on top-three list, but when it's rails, you know he's on it. Gap to backside 50-50 Photo: Heikkila
If it was Jamie Foy’s Skater of the Year, would Nyjah have won a few years ago?
I don’t know. That’s a hard one, man.
Tyshawn won that year.
Wasn’t there someone else? It was Tyshawn, Nyjah and T-Funk?
Yeah.
Yeah, that’s a hard one. I mean, do you go by the best part of the year or do you go by what they did throughout the year?
I don’t know, you’d have to ask Jamie Foy for Jamie Foy’s Skater of the Year.
It’s so hard. I was really backin’ Funk that year. You know, he’s in-house. He went to SF. He went to Thrasherland and went crazy.
Dude, he’s so fucked. He’s so good.
When that was happening, in my book, I was like, Man, I think T-Funk can get this right now.
It hurts!
You know, it doesn’t matter. That’s the love of skating. Whatever happens happens. You just put out your shit and you see where the cards lie.
Bring your mama to work day
What was this session at UCI with Tiago and your mom?
Oh, man, it was a sick session. It’s funny, because that’s, like, one of the first times my mom’s really watched me skate a street spot. I mean, she watched me one time when I got a clip in Pennsylvania when I was filming with Ty for Flat Earth, and then obviously she towed me into the tré flip. But this UCI trick was definitely a battle. It took me, like, 45 minutes, and I knew going there she was in for a show. We’ll see how that goes. It was pretty funny, she’s all, Oh, should you maybe take a break? I’m like, Nah, this is how it works, really. I got this window and I got to get to it right now. But it was sick, because she also got to meet Tiago and see him skate, and see the different nuances between how we both skate. We’re both skating the same spot, but we do it completely different. It was so funny. When he was doing his trick, he was going pretty slow. I mean, compared to me, you know, I’m flying at the thing! And Tiago has so much pop it looks like he’s skating slower, while I have to go as fast as I can just to get on it. He did it like a switch back tail on a flat ledge, you know? So that’s why it was so amazing to watch. And it was really cool for my mom to see that different dynamic. And it was cool, because this spot was where I hurt my ankle in the beginning of this year, in January. I couldn’t really skate for three months because of it. So I was really stoked to go back and get that clip and have Tiago there to hype up the session. That was awesome, just because I knew he wanted to do his trick, and I knew he was gonna do it, and it was gonna be so sick, and he’s gonna hype me up! I always love having someone to skate the spot with me. Yeah, that’s cool.
Foy AND Tiago? You could sell tickets to this session. Heelflip back tail
Power team! Tiago tops it off with an epic SSBSTS
What was your mom’s reaction when you guys got your tricks?
Tiago, he did his pretty quick. She was hyped. I mean, it’s funny, because usually she sees contests and all that stuff, and it’s pretty mellow, and stuff gets landed pretty fast. So she got to see the other aspect of it—where you get beat the hell up! You get to battle it. But then, you know, she sees how hyped you are at the end of it all. It was pretty sick. One of the times she came up to me and gave me knucks. She was like, Right here, I’ll buy dinner. Like, Oh shit. Okay, right here. I have to get it. Mom’s offering dinner. I didn’t get it that try, but it came pretty soon after that.
How’s your life changed the most since getting SOTY?
It’s been a crazy ride. It’s been insane. It’s been way past what I thought it could be, honestly. I’m so thankful for everything. I get to do what I love every day with the people I love. I get to take my mom traveling around the world. I’m blessed to have things where I can help my family out if they need help. I’m super blessed to be where I am. I’m just skating with the homies. There’s definitely some stressful days out there, but anything you love so much is going to test you. I’m super thankful I get to skate with my homies every day. There’s nothing like it. All the fans and everything, going out skating and getting the hype. Every day, just living the dream.
Yeah. I feel like from the outside, you stay pretty positive. Does anything get you down?
There’s definitely things that get me down. I would say most of the things that get me down are kind of self-oriented. I feel like I’m my biggest critic. Skateboarding is the thing I love the most and the thing that will piss me off the most. So that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. But, hey, that’s why we’re here. Hey, we’re just here living life. Thankfully, I got a bunch of good friends around me, a bunch of good people, great girlfriend, great family, things that I’m always thankful for. Once you realize that, you can’t really be bummed on too much.
Nothin' gets him down that he can't get back up from. Take another glance at the grind that took him around the world and onto the cover of our December '24 mag
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